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I am now ready to approve the proposal and suggest it go before the History Committee, with two caveats: 1. That the title be changed to the one I proposed some time ago, and to which the proposers agreed- see Discussion below 2. That some additional references to English documents be added to the list of references already in the proposal. Following are some suggestions the proposers might use that I found helpful:

John Erickson, Radio-location and the air defence problem: The design and development of Soviet radar 1934-40, Science Studies 2 (1972), 241-268.

This article appears to be the definitive one in English on Soviet radar to which almost all other writers refer. It is based on a close reading of two Russian documents, plus other material. The documents are, first, a book by Gen. Lobanov (listed as one of the references in the proposal); second, a book by P. K. Oshchepkov, a leading engineer in the Soviet radar projects. Erickson describes the Zenit system, among others, the role of the Ukrainian FTI in its development, 1937-38, problems encountered, and how it gave rise to the single-antenna Rubin system in 1943. He discusses the work of Prof. Slutskin and other colleagues in Kharkov as well.

John Erickson, Chapter 16 in Radar Development to 1945, edited by Russell Burns, Peter Peregrinus/IEE, 1988.

This is a much-shortened version of the article above, with some added material.

S.S. Swords, Technical history of the beginnings of Radar, Peter Peregrinus/IEE, 1986.

Section 4.7 is devoted to Soviet radar. He acknowledges Erickson's paper as the prime reference here.

Mischa Schwartz

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Dear Mischa -

I fully agree with your suggestions and I have already made necessary corrections in the title and the accompanying material. Thank you for attracting my attention to old Erickson's paper. Of course I know it. I had not cited it simply being afraid to include too many references. However the paper of Erickson and two book chapters published later in line with that paper are important for the IEEE Milestone as, for example, he clearly mentioned the date of the test of Zenit: October 1938.

Still that paper was based not on the Gen. Lobanov's book of 1973 but on his preceding article dated 1962. The book is much more detailed and deeply develops many topics around the USSR radars before and during WW-II including the UIPT team and Zenit radar.

Best regards, A;lexander

20:02, 12 July 2014